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		<title>By: Maya Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maya Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 05:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Divorce will always lead to depression and anger towards the other party. As much as possible avoid divorce;:,</description>
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		<title>By: Eli Ally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli Ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Divorce is always a bad news among married couples. Some couples just cannot iron out their differences.-,&#039;</description>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonja:  Its time to move on.  I know 17 years is a long time, but you chose this path, and you have to remember that sometime soon, you will move on and date, perhaps even love again.  You cannot deny your ex the right to make his own choices.  I went through a veeery eerily similar situation years ago, and I, too, tried to control it.  Its his time with the kids now, and he will spend it with the kids AND her if thats what he chooses.  Sadly, you cant say NO.  Let go, move on.  Hope that the new she-devil will treat your kids well.  IF not, and only if NOT, should you try to stand in the way.  its not your place anymore.  Sad, but true!  Go on, now...learn to be happy!!  Its fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonja:  Its time to move on.  I know 17 years is a long time, but you chose this path, and you have to remember that sometime soon, you will move on and date, perhaps even love again.  You cannot deny your ex the right to make his own choices.  I went through a veeery eerily similar situation years ago, and I, too, tried to control it.  Its his time with the kids now, and he will spend it with the kids AND her if thats what he chooses.  Sadly, you cant say NO.  Let go, move on.  Hope that the new she-devil will treat your kids well.  IF not, and only if NOT, should you try to stand in the way.  its not your place anymore.  Sad, but true!  Go on, now&#8230;learn to be happy!!  Its fun!</p>
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		<title>By: SONJA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SONJA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 14:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband &amp; I have been separated since Fed 19.  I am the one that initially filed for divorce.  We have been together for 17 yrs. with 2 kids 6 &amp; 9.  We are both 37. We have already signed the divorce papers and waiting on them to be final.  In april, I started having second thoughts and wanted to reunite.  I found out that he was seeing someone that is 15 yrs younger with him.  My request to him that he please not bring her around our kids until all of this was final &amp; when he does to bring her in slowly.  Not only did he NOT listen, the first day they met her she spent the night over there.  The next weekend she spent the entire weekend and this time, she slept in the bed with my husband!!  I do not wish to raise my kids like this.  I am in the process of amending my divorce papers so that members of opposite sex can&#039;t sleep in home while children are present.  I have now found out that they are moving in together!!  Will they be able to do that if I have that in the divorce papers?  does anyone know??
I am so distraught that he would do this.  He has only known this girl for a month, and we&#039;ve been together for 17 yrs!!!  Our life together was not that bad.  Some marriage counseling would really benefit us, but he refuses!!!!!
any suggestions anyone?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband &amp; I have been separated since Fed 19.  I am the one that initially filed for divorce.  We have been together for 17 yrs. with 2 kids 6 &amp; 9.  We are both 37. We have already signed the divorce papers and waiting on them to be final.  In april, I started having second thoughts and wanted to reunite.  I found out that he was seeing someone that is 15 yrs younger with him.  My request to him that he please not bring her around our kids until all of this was final &amp; when he does to bring her in slowly.  Not only did he NOT listen, the first day they met her she spent the night over there.  The next weekend she spent the entire weekend and this time, she slept in the bed with my husband!!  I do not wish to raise my kids like this.  I am in the process of amending my divorce papers so that members of opposite sex can&#8217;t sleep in home while children are present.  I have now found out that they are moving in together!!  Will they be able to do that if I have that in the divorce papers?  does anyone know??<br />
I am so distraught that he would do this.  He has only known this girl for a month, and we&#8217;ve been together for 17 yrs!!!  Our life together was not that bad.  Some marriage counseling would really benefit us, but he refuses!!!!!<br />
any suggestions anyone?????</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn McIntyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn McIntyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of how amicable a divorce there is (usually) going to be grieving. Grief for the life you thought you were going to have, the missed opportunities together, the fact that the person who was closest to you is now become something other. May I suggest that the part of you grieving is upset because your ex-partner shows no signs of doing the same? It&#039;s hurtful to conclude that the relationship may not have meant the same thing to the ex as to you; you may well feel betrayed in a way you didn&#039;t expect.  Focus on you, what you want from life and the next person you may share that life with. Take your time and realize that everything you feel is &quot;normal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of how amicable a divorce there is (usually) going to be grieving. Grief for the life you thought you were going to have, the missed opportunities together, the fact that the person who was closest to you is now become something other. May I suggest that the part of you grieving is upset because your ex-partner shows no signs of doing the same? It&#8217;s hurtful to conclude that the relationship may not have meant the same thing to the ex as to you; you may well feel betrayed in a way you didn&#8217;t expect.  Focus on you, what you want from life and the next person you may share that life with. Take your time and realize that everything you feel is &#8220;normal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MauiBenjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MauiBenjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just gotten out of a 14 year relationship, 3 young kids all under 12. Our relationship ended as we grew apart over the years and we both agreed mutually to end our marriage and try to move ahead amicably.
Yes, all in a perfect world:) I heard that within months of seperating and me moving out, she was already having casual sex with some stranger.
Wow! that made me very mad, I thought that it was one of my old good friends that my ex- had a crush on? I was angry, mad and it just kept building inside me. Even though we had agreed and I was fine with it, it was just the thought that was really hitting close to my heart and to imagine my BUDDY! Wow! I had some incredible training sessions. 
I finally ran into my friend and confronted him about it and he told me that she had called him to tell him we had broken up, but he did not persue here due to our friendship. He gained all my respect that day and I am glad I spoke with him instead of alienating him. I know how you must have felt:(
Fortunately I am very active and I have been focusing on #1, ME by training for my Xterra Race, swimming, road &amp; mountain biking, running, surfing and now Stand Up Paddle Boarding. Nothing like being 1 mile Off-shore and paddling down wind several miles, you have no time to think about anything negative, you just don&#039;t want to fall into the Ocean. 
No one knows you are out there:( 
My cycling has improved tremendously and I am heading to one of my fastest races this year. 
Be social, go out to Happy Hours? don&#039;t get intoxicated, real women don&#039;t like drunks(?). Go to Concerts? Games? Hiking? Beaches? 
Don&#039;t sit at home and drink alcohol, it is very depressing:( drink outside the house.
&quot;THIS TOO WILL PASS&quot;.....it just take time for the heart to heal. If you have children, they will LOVE YOU no matter what.

NUMBER #1 RULE: TAKE CARE OF #1(YOURSELF),otherwise if you can&#039;t how can you attract anyone else:(

All the Best! Hand tough! Take your time:)

Aloha!

Benjamin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just gotten out of a 14 year relationship, 3 young kids all under 12. Our relationship ended as we grew apart over the years and we both agreed mutually to end our marriage and try to move ahead amicably.<br />
Yes, all in a perfect world:) I heard that within months of seperating and me moving out, she was already having casual sex with some stranger.<br />
Wow! that made me very mad, I thought that it was one of my old good friends that my ex- had a crush on? I was angry, mad and it just kept building inside me. Even though we had agreed and I was fine with it, it was just the thought that was really hitting close to my heart and to imagine my BUDDY! Wow! I had some incredible training sessions.<br />
I finally ran into my friend and confronted him about it and he told me that she had called him to tell him we had broken up, but he did not persue here due to our friendship. He gained all my respect that day and I am glad I spoke with him instead of alienating him. I know how you must have felt:(<br />
Fortunately I am very active and I have been focusing on #1, ME by training for my Xterra Race, swimming, road &amp; mountain biking, running, surfing and now Stand Up Paddle Boarding. Nothing like being 1 mile Off-shore and paddling down wind several miles, you have no time to think about anything negative, you just don&#8217;t want to fall into the Ocean.<br />
No one knows you are out there:(<br />
My cycling has improved tremendously and I am heading to one of my fastest races this year.<br />
Be social, go out to Happy Hours? don&#8217;t get intoxicated, real women don&#8217;t like drunks(?). Go to Concerts? Games? Hiking? Beaches?<br />
Don&#8217;t sit at home and drink alcohol, it is very depressing:( drink outside the house.<br />
&#8220;THIS TOO WILL PASS&#8221;&#8230;..it just take time for the heart to heal. If you have children, they will LOVE YOU no matter what.</p>
<p>NUMBER #1 RULE: TAKE CARE OF #1(YOURSELF),otherwise if you can&#8217;t how can you attract anyone else:(</p>
<p>All the Best! Hand tough! Take your time:)</p>
<p>Aloha!</p>
<p>Benjamin</p>
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		<title>By: giedrius</title>
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		<dc:creator>giedrius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are surely things you had to give up (partly) for relationship. It might be time to remember these, as you got a lot of most valuable resource back - your time. Now you have to choose where to invest it again. The worst decision is to mourn and invest it into relationship that is not exiting anymore. 
Go out with your buddies. Not for picking up girls only, but just for fun. Hit gym or start doing some other activities that exhaust physically. Find a way to spend your time creatively, like remembering hobbies you had before you got married, or trying out new ones. There are a lot things to do. And these will keep you busy from hard thoughts. 
It wont be easy. But after a while the sun will start to shine again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are surely things you had to give up (partly) for relationship. It might be time to remember these, as you got a lot of most valuable resource back &#8211; your time. Now you have to choose where to invest it again. The worst decision is to mourn and invest it into relationship that is not exiting anymore.<br />
Go out with your buddies. Not for picking up girls only, but just for fun. Hit gym or start doing some other activities that exhaust physically. Find a way to spend your time creatively, like remembering hobbies you had before you got married, or trying out new ones. There are a lot things to do. And these will keep you busy from hard thoughts.<br />
It wont be easy. But after a while the sun will start to shine again.</p>
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		<title>By: Leisa Hammett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leisa Hammett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not popular. But most experts recommend waiting at least a year before beginning to date. I did. But I didn&#039;t wait until the papers were signed. Our mutual permanent separation and divorce was a 22-month process. I began dating at 13 months. Emotionally, I was ready. I had continued counseling, gone to divorce groups, did my healing work, avoided anything that could lead me into a relationship up until that point. The problem is that you do not know when a casual dating will lead to something more. I found myself six months into a relationship when the divorce was final. I didn&#039;t know that I&#039;d still want and need to heal some more. Painful to both of us, I ended the relationship. We did get back together six months later. But I could have saved us some pain if I&#039;d just waited until the divorce is final. Time passes quickly. You&#039;ll live. Any break up is a gift of time to heal and work on yourself. Relationships happening within that first year are often bandaids. I strongly believe, and from personal experience, you cannot be clear, level-headed and self-protective and nurturing and discerning while you are still healing. 

I know. I know. My divorce was 10 years in the making. I had healed in many ways. I had an amicable divorce. But divorce is divorce. The impact CANNOT be minimized. I don&#039;t care how much you hate your &quot;ex&quot; and wanted to get out and are happy about it. One counselor said to me he believes that that high divorce rate for second marriages are because of the marriages that happen within the first year of a divorce.  And I met people and still do like that repeatedly. Rebound marriages equal disaster. So don&#039;t go near the fire! 

Now, I&#039;ve diatribed on your wife&#039;s choices. Here&#039;s what I say to you. Even though on good terms with my former husband, even though I was healing, etc., it was still difficult to hear he had begun dating. My first thought was panic and that one of those women would be my daughter&#039;s stepmother. And then, I took a deep breath and reminded myself not to live in the future within my head and that I could not control his choices. I could only be responsible for my own and for my own thoughts. And thoughts are powerful. They can be toxic and fear-mongering or reminders that you live in a beautiful world and have a lot to be grateful for and can take care of you. Good luck. Pssst: You will survive. Keep healing. And don&#039;t leap into a relationship for a while! Okay? Time passes quickly. It&#039;s been six years for me and I&#039;m getting married next summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not popular. But most experts recommend waiting at least a year before beginning to date. I did. But I didn&#8217;t wait until the papers were signed. Our mutual permanent separation and divorce was a 22-month process. I began dating at 13 months. Emotionally, I was ready. I had continued counseling, gone to divorce groups, did my healing work, avoided anything that could lead me into a relationship up until that point. The problem is that you do not know when a casual dating will lead to something more. I found myself six months into a relationship when the divorce was final. I didn&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d still want and need to heal some more. Painful to both of us, I ended the relationship. We did get back together six months later. But I could have saved us some pain if I&#8217;d just waited until the divorce is final. Time passes quickly. You&#8217;ll live. Any break up is a gift of time to heal and work on yourself. Relationships happening within that first year are often bandaids. I strongly believe, and from personal experience, you cannot be clear, level-headed and self-protective and nurturing and discerning while you are still healing. </p>
<p>I know. I know. My divorce was 10 years in the making. I had healed in many ways. I had an amicable divorce. But divorce is divorce. The impact CANNOT be minimized. I don&#8217;t care how much you hate your &#8220;ex&#8221; and wanted to get out and are happy about it. One counselor said to me he believes that that high divorce rate for second marriages are because of the marriages that happen within the first year of a divorce.  And I met people and still do like that repeatedly. Rebound marriages equal disaster. So don&#8217;t go near the fire! </p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ve diatribed on your wife&#8217;s choices. Here&#8217;s what I say to you. Even though on good terms with my former husband, even though I was healing, etc., it was still difficult to hear he had begun dating. My first thought was panic and that one of those women would be my daughter&#8217;s stepmother. And then, I took a deep breath and reminded myself not to live in the future within my head and that I could not control his choices. I could only be responsible for my own and for my own thoughts. And thoughts are powerful. They can be toxic and fear-mongering or reminders that you live in a beautiful world and have a lot to be grateful for and can take care of you. Good luck. Pssst: You will survive. Keep healing. And don&#8217;t leap into a relationship for a while! Okay? Time passes quickly. It&#8217;s been six years for me and I&#8217;m getting married next summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Deline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

Any extended relationship that part ways, is painful.  Particularly one that you put so much trust, effort, and hopes.  Splitting up sucks.

Something you&#039;re not seeing however.  Your ex is going through just as much emotional turmoil about it.  Superficially it&#039;s not apparent to you, but it&#039;s very much so.  There&#039;s a difference however with how she is handling it, and how you are handling it.

She&#039;s throwing herself into the next relationship, as a distraction from the one you guys had.  It&#039;s her way of coping with the problem.

It&#039;s not cool that she&#039;s doing this with someone you both know but that&#039;s how women generally operate.  They don&#039;t let go of the first guy, until they are firmly situated with the next, and usually that means someone that&#039;s been around, but circumstances never really materialized for her to pursue it.

Why?  Because it&#039;s a tough world for women.  At least she knows of this other guy, and not some crazy stranger.  That&#039;s how she rationalizes it.  And that doesn&#039;t mean that her issues disappeared.  Nope.  They&#039;re now your bum of a friend&#039;s issues.

The only page out of her book you should take with you... is guess what?  Get busy living.  I&#039;m not saying get involved in the next relationship (oh hell no!)  Nor should you go and get in bed with one of her friends. No, just move on.  Get back into dating mode.  Go out.  Meet women.  Start dating.  Join groups, attend events, take a class.  Get busy with the next part of your life.  You have your freedom back!  What are you going to do about it?!

Think about that question and then get busy doing it.

Deline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Any extended relationship that part ways, is painful.  Particularly one that you put so much trust, effort, and hopes.  Splitting up sucks.</p>
<p>Something you&#8217;re not seeing however.  Your ex is going through just as much emotional turmoil about it.  Superficially it&#8217;s not apparent to you, but it&#8217;s very much so.  There&#8217;s a difference however with how she is handling it, and how you are handling it.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s throwing herself into the next relationship, as a distraction from the one you guys had.  It&#8217;s her way of coping with the problem.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not cool that she&#8217;s doing this with someone you both know but that&#8217;s how women generally operate.  They don&#8217;t let go of the first guy, until they are firmly situated with the next, and usually that means someone that&#8217;s been around, but circumstances never really materialized for her to pursue it.</p>
<p>Why?  Because it&#8217;s a tough world for women.  At least she knows of this other guy, and not some crazy stranger.  That&#8217;s how she rationalizes it.  And that doesn&#8217;t mean that her issues disappeared.  Nope.  They&#8217;re now your bum of a friend&#8217;s issues.</p>
<p>The only page out of her book you should take with you&#8230; is guess what?  Get busy living.  I&#8217;m not saying get involved in the next relationship (oh hell no!)  Nor should you go and get in bed with one of her friends. No, just move on.  Get back into dating mode.  Go out.  Meet women.  Start dating.  Join groups, attend events, take a class.  Get busy with the next part of your life.  You have your freedom back!  What are you going to do about it?!</p>
<p>Think about that question and then get busy doing it.</p>
<p>Deline</p>
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